Sharon Salzberg – Metta Hour – Ep. 101 – Urszula Klich

Sharon Salzberg - Metta Hour - Ep. 101 - Urszula Klich

For the 101st episode of the Metta Hour Podcast, Sharon speaks with clinical psychologist and author, Dr. Urszula Klich.

Urszula Klich teaches self-regulation to maximize physical and emotional health. She is a certified meditation teacher in Cognitively-Based Compassion Training. Urszula is also the President of the Southeast Biofeedback and Clinical Neuroscience Association. Her specialized program, Mindfulness-Based Biofeedback, has been published and widely applied from hospitals to classrooms around the globe.

In this conversation, Sharon and Urszula speak at length about techniques for working with pain by applying mindfulness, compassion and biofeedback. Urszula also leads a 12-minute guided meditation practice as part of this episode. To learn more about Urzsula’s work, visit:

Healing with Mindfulness

Urszula shares her history with mindfulness and meditation practice. She speaks about the transition of bringing these practices into her medical practice. Urszula describes the transformation she began to see in patients once she brought mindfulness into her work as a psychologist.

“At that time in my life, I was asking a lot of existential questions. I started a more conscious search for some of those answers. Or at least the possibility of seeing and relating to the world. In both outer and inner experiences and what that meant.” – Urszula Klich

Mindfulness-Based Biofeedback (10:25)

Sharon and Urszula discuss the mechanics of her specialized version of biofeedback therapy. A process which combines classical mindfulness with advanced biofeedback equipment. We learn how this method allows patients to become aware of their body in a transformational way.

The Tools for Working with Suffering  (21:10)

Urszula and Sharon discuss the connection between our physical and emotional pain. They talk about how the tools we use to deal with emotional pain can also be used to address physical pain.

“The tools for working with physical pain are often considered a template for working with emotional pain. The skills that we learn working with what is happening in our knee can be applied to sadness, grief, loneliness, and anger.” – Sharon Salzberg

Learn tools for working with our emotions and thoughts with Insight meditation (Vipassanā) teacher JoAnna Hardy on Ep. 41 of the BHNN Guest Podcast
Compassion Research (38:40)

Sharon and her guest discuss the trend in research into the effects of compassion on the mind and body.

Working with our Thoughts (43:35)

We close with a 12-minute mindfulness meditation led by Urszula.


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