Francesca Maximé – ReRooted – Ep. 16 – Approaching Inclusivity with Tada Hozumi

Francesca Maximé - ReRooted - Ep. 16 – Tada Hozumi Pt. 2

Francesca continues her conversation with Tada Hozumi on cultural somatics, how inclusivity has to start with humility, the concept of ancestral echoing, and the power of street dancing.

Tada Hozumi is a practitioner of a practice known as cultural somatics. The work of cultural somatics is facilitating change by supporting the co-healing of individual and cultural bodies. Tada offers coaching and consulting work, as well as workshops. You can learn more about Tada at and Instagram.

Listen to part one of this conversation on ReRooted Ep. 15
The Newtonian and Quantum Worlds

Francesca and Tada continue their conversation on trauma. They talk about how the work of healing justice is about understanding the relationship between the Newtonian world and the quantum world, on both a personal level and societal level. Tada explains how the roots of his work in social justice comes from a passion for street dancing.

“A lot of changes that need to happen are mechanical changes in the system. But underneath that, we need something a lot more subtle to drive that.” – Tada Hozumi

Approaching Inclusivity (10:37)

The conversation shifts to how inclusivity has to start with humility, it’s not about creating a space for people of color to receive the gifts of white people. Tada talks about how the wisdom already contained in these communities is often expressed in more subtle ways, using Krumping as an example.

“The way a lot organizations approach inclusivity and accessibility is kind of like grafting things to places that have no nutrients, there’s no network underneath.” – Tada Hozumi

Ancestral Echoing (19:43)

Francesca and Tada examine how white culture is void of somatics and lacks the resilience found in other communities. Tada brings up a concept called ancestral echoing, which is the desire of white people to go back to the cultures they came from, but no longer really exist. This is why so many white people get pulled into cultures of color.

“For things to really be alive in this next stage for a lot of these healing traditions that have been stewarded in white spaces, there needs to be a lot more mixing, there needs to be a lot more opening up, and there needs to be recognition of that wisdom held away from the center of whiteness. That has a chance of doing something.” – Tada Hozumi 


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