David Nichtern – CSM Podcast – Ep. 44 – Professional Wrestling and the Middle Way with Matt Sydal

Matt Sydal joins David to talk about wisdom gained through imperfection, and how professional wrestling connects to the Middle Way.

“Wrestling is like meditation, you can do it in any language.” – Matt Sydal

In this episode, Matt joins David to discuss:
  • The variations of professional wrestling in different cultures
  • The “not too tight, not too loose” principle in wrestling
  • Maintaining an equanimous state in discomfort 
  • His story on experiencing vastness and spaciousness of the mind for the first time 
  • Balancing daily life with the practice of cultivating the meditative mind 
  • The wisdom he’s gained from cultivating an “imperfect” meditation practice
About Matt Sydal: 

Matthew Joseph “Matt” Korklan , also known by the ring name Matt Sydal, is an American professional wrestler. Between 2000 and 2007, Korklan wrestled on the independent circuit, for promotions including NWA Midwest, IWA-Mid South, and Ring of Honor, winning both singles and tag team championships. He also wrestled for the short-lived Wrestling Society X and was featured on Total Nonstop Action Wrestling’s early pay-per-view events. In 2011, he formed an alliance with Kofi Kingston, known as Air Boom, and they won the WWE Tag Team Championship.  He also made his debut for New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW), where he was one-time NEVER Openweight 6-Man Tag Team Champions, and former two-time IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Champion. Matt is known for his high flying, lucha libre-inspired style of wrestling, and was named the Wrestling Observer Newsletter‘s Best Flying Wrestler in 2008.

Learn more about Matt’s wrestling courses at www.sydojo.com

About David Nichtern:

David Nichtern, founder of Dharma Moon, is a senior Buddhist teacher who has been practicing and teaching meditation for over 40 years. He was one of the initial American students of renowned meditation master Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche and studied closely with him soon after his arrival in the United States in 1970. He is also a business consultant with companies creating a variety of offerings integrating meditation in a larger health and well-being context. David is also a multiple Grammy-nominated and Emmy award-winning musician.

Listen to more from David: 
David sits down with psychologist and author Daniel Goleman for conversation around the intersection of awareness, creativity and business, inCSM Ep. 1.
Krishna Das joins David for chanting and chatting about transforming negative karmas, the path of surrender, & the connections between Hinduism and Buddhism, in CSM Ep. 13
Anthropologist, Alberto Villolda, PhD, joins David to illuminate ancient shamanic wisdom to heal our modern world through imbibing the natural, intuitive flow of consciousness, nature, and service, in CSM Ep. 18
David speaks with his longtime friend, Jamie Lee Curtis, about her meditation practice, the bhav of creativity, and playing to your strongest suits in life, in CSM Ep. 2
David and Daniel Aitken share a conversation around the creative process and meditation, manifesting our visions, and Trungpa Rinpoche’s Shambhala teachings, in CSM Ep. 19