Francesca Maximé – ReRooted – Ep. 55 – Trauma, Resilience, & Healing with Dr. Bruce Perry (Pt. 2)

Dr. Bruce Perry is back with Francesca to explore how to overcome traumas, like rat race mindset, by healing through methodologies of inner reflection.

Dr. Bruce Perry is back with Francesca to explore how to overcome traumas, like rat race mindset, by healing through methodologies of inner reflection.

Dr. Bruce Perry is the Senior Fellow of The ChildTrauma Academy a Community of Practice based in Houston, TX, and Professor in Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at the Feinberg School of Medicine at Northwestern University in Chicago. He recently authored, along with Oprah Winfrey, the new book, What Happened to You? Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing. Over the last thirty years, Dr. Perry has been an active teacher, clinician, and researcher in children’s mental health and neuroscience. You can find more information at

What Happened to You?: Pt. II

Welcoming back Dr. Bruce Perry to the ReRooted podcast for the second-half of their meaningful two-part conversation, Francesca picks up right where they left off the last episode, applying intergenerational inquiry, early childhood attachment-theory, and somatic healing wisdom from her life, to the scientific understandings encased in Dr. Perry’s new book with Oprah Winfrey, What Happened to You? Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing.

“All biological systems that develop, they develop all kinds of mechanisms to maintain themselves. If people actually had moments where they were fully reflective, they wouldn’t live the way they live. Which means the whole system would unravel, capitalism would unravel, materialism would unravel.” – Dr. Bruce Perry

To catch up on Part 1 of this riveting conversation with Francesca and Dr. Bruce Perry, tune into Ep. 54 of ReRooted
Kneeling at the Altar of the Grind: Rat Race Mindset (10:08)

Francesca and Dr. Perry discuss the importance of being, rather than doing; despite how difficult that may seem in our time-starved society, where we are rewarded for ‘kneeling at the altar of the grind.’ From this lens, both Francesca and Dr. Perry offer inner resolutions—of being, rest, reflection, enjoyment, and taking your time back—to the external problems of the ‘interactive dynamic traps’ of capitalism, consumerism, materialism, and workaholism – the proverbial modern rat race.

“What we’re talking about here—this inoculation piece, this relationship resilience inoculation—is purely about just being. The doing is coming, in a way—in part with, or after—the being with. We put everything on the doing, and I think that’s such a shift in people’s thinking. Because we are time-starved in this society. We’re almost kneeling at the altar of the grind in this country, and we’re given rewards for it.” – Francesca Maximé

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Reflection: Movement, Trust, & Being in Nature (17:07)

Sharing vulnerably about the difficult personal moments which helped bring her to a turning point of realization and meditation, Francesca outlines her spiritual transformation as a model of possibility and potential for those who may have difficulty sitting with their own thoughts. Relaying the importance of inner reflection, Dr. Perry outlines how we can imbibe reflective states through methodologies beyond sitting meditation; describing the reflective potencies of movement, trust, and being in nature.

“If you walk, particularly in a beautiful place, nature will take you where you need to go. Trust the natural world. Move in the natural world, and you’ll find that you can get to certain reflective places that will be good for you.” – Dr. Bruce Perry

Francesca and Dr. Bruce Perry meaningfully discuss the physiology of belonging, on Ep. 38 of ReRooted

What Happened to You?: Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing by [Oprah Winfrey, Bruce D. Perry]    The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog: And Other Stories from a Child Psychiatrist's Notebook -- What Traumatized Children Can Teach Us About Loss, Love, and Healing by [Bruce D Perry, Maia Szalavitz]    Born for Love: Why Empathy Is Essential--and Endangered by [Bruce D. Perry, Maia Szalavitz]